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Title

  • Business Rearrangement
  • Business - Rearrangement - Let another vote happen

Description

  • <p class="speaker">Mathias Cormann</p>
  • <p>I seek leave to move a motion relating to the routine of business for Thursday, 6 December 2018.</p>
  • The majority voted in favour of a [motion](https://www.openaustralia.org.au/senate/?id=2018-12-06.150.1) introduced by West Australian Senator [Mathias Cormann](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/wa/mathias_cormann) (Liberal) to suspend the usual procedural rules - known as [standing orders](https://peo.gov.au/understand-our-parliament/how-parliament-works/parliament-at-work/standing-orders/) - in order to allow him to introduced another motion.
  • ### Motion text
  • > *That so much of standing orders be suspended without debate as would prevent us from moving an hours motion.*
  • <p>Leave not granted.</p>
  • <p>I move:</p>
  • <p class="italic">That so much of standing orders be suspended without debate as would prevent us from moving an hours motion.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Richard Di Natale</p>
  • <p>We have a question currently before the chair.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Scott Ryan</p>
  • <p>The minister is allowed to seek to suspend standing orders on the same basis you were, Senator Di Natale, and I'm required to put that without debate.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Richard Di Natale</p>
  • <p>Are you on special orders to&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Scott Ryan</p>
  • <p>He is seeking to suspend standing orders to put a motion to allow him to move a change of hours. I put that without debate during debates limited by standing order 142.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Richard Di Natale</p>
  • <p>The advice we received earlier from the Clerk was that while this issue was before the chair, the minister was unable to move an hours motion. You put&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Scott Ryan</p>
  • <p>You're quite right. I have just spoken to the Clerk and Deputy Clerk. The motion to suspend standing orders, I am told, needs to be relevant to the matter before the chair.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Mathias Cormann</p>
  • <p>I would argue that it is because, as part of the hours motion, I seek to adjourn the debate on the bill that we have's and vary hours for the remainder of today with a view to dealing with the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Bill 2018. It will be up to the Labor Party whether they want to facilitate that happening.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Scott Ryan</p>
  • <p>The motion is moved by Senator Cormann, as&#8212;</p>
  • <p>Senator Di Natale, on a point of order?</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Richard Di Natale</p>
  • <p>We sought advice on this specific matter.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Scott Ryan</p>
  • <p>I've got the Clerk next to me, Senator Di Natale, and I've just taken advice from him.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Richard Di Natale</p>
  • <p>The advice we received was very clear and very direct: that while this matter is before the chair, the minister cannot move an hours motion relating to a different matter.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Scott Ryan</p>
  • <p>Senator Di Natale! On the point of order, Senator Cormann.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Mathias Cormann</p>
  • <p>I have previously been advised this is not to be debated. This is actually just going to be&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Scott Ryan</p>
  • <p>I am seeking advice from the clerks next to me, Senator Di Natale. I am advised that this motion is in order. This is the motion to adjourn debate to bring on the motion he wishes to move.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Cory Bernardi</p>
  • <p>May I seek leave to wish everyone a merry Christmas, because I'm out of here!</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Scott Ryan</p>
  • <p>The question is that the debate be adjourned to allow Senator Cormann to bring on the hours motion.</p>
  • <p class="italic">Senator Wong interjecting&#8212;</p>
  • <p>I don't have anything in front of me.</p>
  • <p class="italic">Senator Wong interjecting&#8212;</p>
  • <p>That was ruled out of order, Senator Wong. The question is&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="italic">Senator Patrick interjecting&#8212;</p>
  • <p>I know what's being done here. I've been facilitating this as quickly as I can from the chair. I am not going to tolerate intentional frustration of the chamber. Senator Patrick, what is your point of order? Be brief.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Rex Patrick</p>
  • <p>I don't think Senator Cormann's microphone was on. I actually couldn't hear what he was saying.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Scott Ryan</p>
  • <p>The motion is to adjourn this debate to allow Senator Cormann to bring on a motion regarding hours of debate for today. Division required. Ring the bells for one minute.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Richard Di Natale</p>
  • <p>Four minutes.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Scott Ryan</p>
  • <p>I said one minute previously. It won't make a difference, Senator Di Natale. The question is that the debate on this bill be adjourned to allow Senator Cormann to move a motion with respect to hours of debate for today.</p>