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senate vote 2014-10-29#4 Edited by mackay staff on 2014-11-05 12:01:10	Title Description The majority disagreed with a series of [Greens amendments](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2014-10-29.62.1) that proposed to change a lot of the [bill](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/s976)'s provisions. For example, they wanted to include more exceptions into the offence of entering and staying in a declared area and give judges more room to interpret what a legitimate purpose to be in those areas would be. The amendments are known as "amendments numbers (1) to (3) and (20) to (24) on [sheet 7594](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_346553d1-a62c-4ad7-82f5-f1d526256f7b%22;rec=0), and amendments (1) to (3) on [sheet 7598](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_2ed09b03-db19-4495-b616-0e85c63eb75f%22;rec=0), and amendments (1) to (8) on [sheet 7599](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_cee771be-091b-4872-a6d4-82d35d963bf4%22;rec=0)". ###Enter or stay in declared area offence The bill will make it an offence for someone to enter or stay in an area that the [Minister for Foreign Affairs](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/curtin/julie_bishop) declares as a declared area. A whole country can be a declared area, which was [criticised](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-17/parliamentary-committee-recommends-passing-of-foreign-fighters-/5821514) by the [Joint Parliamentary Committee on Intelligence and Security](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_Joint_Committee_on_Intelligence_and_Security). The current exceptions to this offence (in [proposed subsection 119.2(3)](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=LEGISLATION;id=legislation%2Fbills%2Fs976_first-senate%2F0001;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbills%2Fs976_first-senate%2F0001%22;rec=0)) include when a person is involved in: * [humanitarian aid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_aid) (but this has to be the sole act), * a court case, * work for an Australian government (state or federal), * work for a foreign government (so long as it's not violating Australian law), * work for the [United Nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations), * journalism, and * visiting a family member. Read more about this new offence in the [bills digest](http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1415a/15bd034). ###Background to the bill A number of incidents happened before and after this bill's introduction. There was [one of the biggest counter-terrorism operations](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-18/authorities-thwart-beheading-plot-in-australias-biggest-raid/5754276) in Australian history. The Prime Minister [Tony Abbott](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/warringah/tony_abbott) also confirmed that Australia would be [sending the military to Iraq](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-15/special-forces-could-move-into-iraq-within-days-abbott/5815534) to fight the [Islamic State](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant) (IS) (also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) or the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL)). Two particularly significant incidents were when: * Australian teenager [Abdullah Elmir](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-21/australian-is-fighter-threatens-tony-abbott-in-video/5830040) threatened Prime Minister Tony Abbott in an IS video; * Canadian gunman [Michael Zehaf-Bibeau](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-23/canadian-parliament-in-lockdown-after-gunman-shoots-soldier/5834692) attacked the Canadian Parliament.
senate vote 2014-10-29#4 Edited by mackay staff on 2014-11-05 11:59:20	Title Bills — Counter-Terrorism Legislation Amendment (Foreign Fighters) Bill 2014; in Committee Counter-Terrorism Legislation Amendment (Foreign Fighters) Bill 2014 - in Committee - Australian Greens amendments Description ~~<p class="speaker">Gavin Marshall</p>~~ <p>Senators, I now intend to deal with the rest of the outstanding amendments in this way: I will first deal with government amendments and then I will deal with Greens amendments. The government amendments will be put in two questions, as one question is opposing a schedule. And then we will deal with all of the amendments. The first question to deal with the remaining government amendments is: that part 2 of schedule 2 stand as printed.</p> ~~<p>Question negatived.</p>~~ The majority disagreed with a series of [Greens amendments](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2014-10-29.62.1) that proposed to change a lot of the [bill](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/s976)'s provisions. For example, they wanted to include more exceptions into the offence of entering and staying in a declared area and give judges more room to interpret what a legitimate purpose to be in those areas would be. The amendments are known as "amendments numbers (1) to (3) and (20) to (24) on [sheet 7594](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_346553d1-a62c-4ad7-82f5-f1d526256f7b%22;rec=0), and amendments (1) to (3) on [sheet 7598](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_2ed09b03-db19-4495-b616-0e85c63eb75f%22;rec=0), and amendments (1) to (8) on [sheet 7599](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_cee771be-091b-4872-a6d4-82d35d963bf4%22;rec=0)". ###Enter or stay in declared area offence The bill will make it an offence for someone to enter or stay in an area that the [Minister for Foreign Affairs](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/curtin/julie_bishop) declares as a declared area. A whole country can be a declared area, which was [criticised](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-17/parliamentary-committee-recommends-passing-of-foreign-fighters-/5821514) by the [Joint Parliamentary Committee on Intelligence and Security](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_Joint_Committee_on_Intelligence_and_Security). The current exceptions to this offence (in [proposed subsection 119.2(3)](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=LEGISLATION;id=legislation%2Fbills%2Fs976_first-senate%2F0001;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbills%2Fs976_first-senate%2F0001%22;rec=0)) include when a person is involved in: * [humanitarian aid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_aid) (but this has to be the sole act), * a court case, * work for an Australian government (state or federal), * work for a foreign government (so long as it's not violating Australian law), * work for the [United Nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations), * journalism, and * visiting a family member. Read more about this new offence in the [bills digest](http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1415a/15bd034). ###Background to the bill A number of incidents happened before and after this bill's introduction. There was [one of the biggest counter-terrorism operations](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-18/authorities-thwart-beheading-plot-in-australias-biggest-raid/5754276) in Australian history. The Prime Minister [Tony Abbott](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/warringah/tony_abbott) also confirmed that Australia would be [sending the military to Iraq](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-15/special-forces-could-move-into-iraq-within-days-abbott/5815534) to fight the [Islamic State](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant) (IS) (also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) or the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL)). Two particularly significant incidents were when: * Australian teenager [Abdullah Elmir](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-21/australian-is-fighter-threatens-tony-abbott-in-video/5830040) threatened Prime Minister Tony Abbott in an IS video; * Canadian gunman [Michael Zehaf-Bibeau](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-23/canadian-parliament-in-lockdown-after-gunman-shoots-soldier/5834692) attacked the Canadian Parliament. ~~<p>The CHAIRMAN: The question now is that the remaining government amendments on sheet ZA358 be agreed to.</p>~~ ~~<p>Question agreed to.</p>~~ <p>The CHAIRMAN: That concludes the outstanding government amendments. We will now move to Australian Greens amendments. They will also be put in two questions. The first question is that item 133 of schedule 1 and schedule 2, 5 and 6 stand as printed.</p> ~~<p>Question agreed to.</p>~~ <p>The CHAIRMAN: The question to deal with the remainder of the Greens amendments is that amendments numbers (1) to (3) and (20) to (24) on sheet 7594, and amendments (1) to (3) on sheet 7598, and amendments (1) to (8) on sheet 7599 be agreed to.</p>

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senate vote 2014-10-29#4

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The majority disagreed with a series of [Greens amendments](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2014-10-29.62.1) that proposed to change a lot of the [bill](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/s976)'s provisions. For example, they wanted to include more exceptions into the offence of entering and staying in a declared area and give judges more room to interpret what a legitimate purpose to be in those areas would be.
The amendments are known as "amendments numbers (1) to (3) and (20) to (24) on [sheet 7594](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_346553d1-a62c-4ad7-82f5-f1d526256f7b%22;rec=0), and amendments (1) to (3) on [sheet 7598](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_2ed09b03-db19-4495-b616-0e85c63eb75f%22;rec=0), and amendments (1) to (8) on [sheet 7599](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_cee771be-091b-4872-a6d4-82d35d963bf4%22;rec=0)".
###Enter or stay in declared area offence
The bill will make it an offence for someone to enter or stay in an area that the [Minister for Foreign Affairs](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/curtin/julie_bishop) declares as a declared area. A whole country can be a declared area, which was [criticised](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-17/parliamentary-committee-recommends-passing-of-foreign-fighters-/5821514) by the [Joint Parliamentary Committee on Intelligence and Security](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_Joint_Committee_on_Intelligence_and_Security).
The current exceptions to this offence (in [proposed subsection 119.2(3)](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=LEGISLATION;id=legislation%2Fbills%2Fs976_first-senate%2F0001;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbills%2Fs976_first-senate%2F0001%22;rec=0)) include when a person is involved in:
* [humanitarian aid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_aid) (but this has to be the sole act),
* a court case,
* work for an Australian government (state or federal),
* work for a foreign government (so long as it's not violating Australian law),
* work for the [United Nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations),
* journalism, and
* visiting a family member.
Read more about this new offence in the [bills digest](http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1415a/15bd034).
###Background to the bill
A number of incidents happened before and after this bill's introduction. There was [one of the biggest counter-terrorism operations](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-18/authorities-thwart-beheading-plot-in-australias-biggest-raid/5754276) in Australian history. The Prime Minister [Tony Abbott](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/warringah/tony_abbott) also confirmed that Australia would be [sending the military to Iraq](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-15/special-forces-could-move-into-iraq-within-days-abbott/5815534) to fight the [Islamic State](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant) (IS) (also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) or the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL)).
Two particularly significant incidents were when:
* Australian teenager [Abdullah Elmir](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-21/australian-is-fighter-threatens-tony-abbott-in-video/5830040) threatened Prime Minister Tony Abbott in an IS video;
* Canadian gunman [Michael Zehaf-Bibeau](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-23/canadian-parliament-in-lockdown-after-gunman-shoots-soldier/5834692) attacked the Canadian Parliament.

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Bills — Counter-Terrorism Legislation Amendment (Foreign Fighters) Bill 2014; in Committee
Counter-Terrorism Legislation Amendment (Foreign Fighters) Bill 2014 - in Committee - Australian Greens amendments

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~~Gavin Marshall~~
Senators, I now intend to deal with the rest of the outstanding amendments in this way: I will first deal with government amendments and then I will deal with Greens amendments. The government amendments will be put in two questions, as one question is opposing a schedule. And then we will deal with all of the amendments. The first question to deal with the remaining government amendments is: that part 2 of schedule 2 stand as printed.
~~Question negatived.~~
The majority disagreed with a series of [Greens amendments](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2014-10-29.62.1) that proposed to change a lot of the [bill](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/s976)'s provisions. For example, they wanted to include more exceptions into the offence of entering and staying in a declared area and give judges more room to interpret what a legitimate purpose to be in those areas would be.
The amendments are known as "amendments numbers (1) to (3) and (20) to (24) on [sheet 7594](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_346553d1-a62c-4ad7-82f5-f1d526256f7b%22;rec=0), and amendments (1) to (3) on [sheet 7598](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_2ed09b03-db19-4495-b616-0e85c63eb75f%22;rec=0), and amendments (1) to (8) on [sheet 7599](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:legislation/billhome/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Famend%2Fs976_amend_cee771be-091b-4872-a6d4-82d35d963bf4%22;rec=0)".
###Enter or stay in declared area offence
The bill will make it an offence for someone to enter or stay in an area that the [Minister for Foreign Affairs](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/curtin/julie_bishop) declares as a declared area. A whole country can be a declared area, which was [criticised](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-17/parliamentary-committee-recommends-passing-of-foreign-fighters-/5821514) by the [Joint Parliamentary Committee on Intelligence and Security](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_Joint_Committee_on_Intelligence_and_Security).
The current exceptions to this offence (in [proposed subsection 119.2(3)](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=LEGISLATION;id=legislation%2Fbills%2Fs976_first-senate%2F0001;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbills%2Fs976_first-senate%2F0001%22;rec=0)) include when a person is involved in:
* [humanitarian aid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_aid) (but this has to be the sole act),
* a court case,
* work for an Australian government (state or federal),
* work for a foreign government (so long as it's not violating Australian law),
* work for the [United Nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations),
* journalism, and
* visiting a family member.
Read more about this new offence in the [bills digest](http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1415a/15bd034).
###Background to the bill
A number of incidents happened before and after this bill's introduction. There was [one of the biggest counter-terrorism operations](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-18/authorities-thwart-beheading-plot-in-australias-biggest-raid/5754276) in Australian history. The Prime Minister [Tony Abbott](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/warringah/tony_abbott) also confirmed that Australia would be [sending the military to Iraq](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-15/special-forces-could-move-into-iraq-within-days-abbott/5815534) to fight the [Islamic State](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant) (IS) (also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) or the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL)).
Two particularly significant incidents were when:
* Australian teenager [Abdullah Elmir](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-21/australian-is-fighter-threatens-tony-abbott-in-video/5830040) threatened Prime Minister Tony Abbott in an IS video;
* Canadian gunman [Michael Zehaf-Bibeau](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-23/canadian-parliament-in-lockdown-after-gunman-shoots-soldier/5834692) attacked the Canadian Parliament.
~~The CHAIRMAN: The question now is that the remaining government amendments on sheet ZA358 be agreed to.~~
~~Question agreed to.~~
The CHAIRMAN: That concludes the outstanding government amendments. We will now move to Australian Greens amendments. They will also be put in two questions. The first question is that item 133 of schedule 1 and schedule 2, 5 and 6 stand as printed.
~~Question agreed to.~~
The CHAIRMAN: The question to deal with the remainder of the Greens amendments is that amendments numbers (1) to (3) and (20) to (24) on sheet 7594, and amendments (1) to (3) on sheet 7598, and amendments (1) to (8) on sheet 7599 be agreed to.