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senate vote 2013-06-27#18

Edited by system

on 2014-10-07 16:21:23

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Description

  • The majority voted in favour of a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2013-06-27.185.6 motion] that [http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=LEGISLATION;id=legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0001;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0000%22;rec=0 schedule 1] stand as printed, which means that the schedule will remain unchanged. The motion was put in response to a motion introduced by Liberal Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Concetta_Fierravanti-Wells&mpc=Senate&house=senate Concetta Fierravanti-Wells] that the schedule be opposed.
  • Schedule 1 is the part of the bill that is intended to remove the [http://www.privatehealth.gov.au/healthinsurance/incentivessurcharges/insurancerebate.htm private health insurance rebate] from the [http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/health-privatehealth-lhc-providers-general.htm Lifetime Health Cover] ('LHC') loading component of affected private health insurance premiums.
  • The LHC is a financial penalty on those who delay taking out private health insurance in the form of a two per cent loading on their premium for each year after their 31st birthday they delay purchasing cover. Currently, people with an LHC loading receive the private health insurance rebate on the total cost of their premium (i.e. the premium plus any LHC loading). Schedule 1 seeks to change this so that people with an LHC loading only receive the rebate to the cost of their premium, not including the LHC loading.(More information about the LHC loading and the effect of this bill is available in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest]. )
  • ''Background of the bill''
  • As well as removing the private health insurance rebate from the Lifetime Health Cover loading component of affected private health insurance premiums, the [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4936 bill] was also introduced to end the Incentive Payments Scheme which allows people to claim the rebate as a direct payment.
  • Currently there are three ways that people can claim the private health insurance rebate: (1) through the Premiums Reduction Scheme, which is an upfront discount on the premium offered by the health insurer; (2) as a tax offset claimed through the Australian Taxation Office; (3) through the Incentive Payment Scheme, which is a direct payment from a Medicare office. This bill would remove the latter option.(Read more about the Incentive Payments Scheme and the bill generally in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest].)
  • The majority voted in favour of a [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2013-06-27.185.6) that [schedule 1](http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=LEGISLATION;id=legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0001;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0000%22;rec=0) stand as printed, which means that the schedule will remain unchanged. The motion was put in response to a motion introduced by Liberal Senator [Concetta Fierravanti-Wells](http://publicwhip-rails.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Concetta_Fierravanti-Wells&mpc=Senate&house=senate) that the schedule be opposed.
  • Schedule 1 is the part of the bill that is intended to remove the [private health insurance rebate](http://www.privatehealth.gov.au/healthinsurance/incentivessurcharges/insurancerebate.htm) from the [Lifetime Health Cover](http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/health-privatehealth-lhc-providers-general.htm) ('LHC') loading component of affected private health insurance premiums.
  • The LHC is a financial penalty on those who delay taking out private health insurance in the form of a two per cent loading on their premium for each year after their 31st birthday they delay purchasing cover. Currently, people with an LHC loading receive the private health insurance rebate on the total cost of their premium (i.e. the premium plus any LHC loading). Schedule 1 seeks to change this so that people with an LHC loading only receive the rebate to the cost of their premium, not including the LHC loading.(More information about the LHC loading and the effect of this bill is available in its [bills digest](http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066). )
  • _Background of the bill_
  • As well as removing the private health insurance rebate from the Lifetime Health Cover loading component of affected private health insurance premiums, the [bill](http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4936) was also introduced to end the Incentive Payments Scheme which allows people to claim the rebate as a direct payment.
  • Currently there are three ways that people can claim the private health insurance rebate: (1) through the Premiums Reduction Scheme, which is an upfront discount on the premium offered by the health insurer; (2) as a tax offset claimed through the Australian Taxation Office; (3) through the Incentive Payment Scheme, which is a direct payment from a Medicare office. This bill would remove the latter option.(Read more about the Incentive Payments Scheme and the bill generally in its [bills digest](http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066).)
senate vote 2013-06-27#18

Edited by system

on 2014-10-07 16:16:56

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Description

  • The majority voted in favour of a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2013-06-27.185.6 motion] that [http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=LEGISLATION;id=legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0001;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0000%22;rec=0 schedule 1] stand as printed, which means that the schedule will remain unchanged. The motion was put in response to a motion introduced by Liberal Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Concetta_Fierravanti-Wells&mpc=Senate&house=senate Concetta Fierravanti-Wells] that the schedule be opposed.
  • Schedule 1 is the part of the bill that is intended to remove the [http://www.privatehealth.gov.au/healthinsurance/incentivessurcharges/insurancerebate.htm private health insurance rebate] from the [http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/health-privatehealth-lhc-providers-general.htm Lifetime Health Cover] ('LHC') loading component of affected private health insurance premiums.
  • The LHC is a financial penalty on those who delay taking out private health insurance in the form of a two per cent loading on their premium for each year after their 31st birthday they delay purchasing cover. Currently, people with an LHC loading receive the private health insurance rebate on the total cost of their premium (i.e. the premium plus any LHC loading). Schedule 1 seeks to change this so that people with an LHC loading only receive the rebate to the cost of their premium, not including the LHC loading.[1]
  • The LHC is a financial penalty on those who delay taking out private health insurance in the form of a two per cent loading on their premium for each year after their 31st birthday they delay purchasing cover. Currently, people with an LHC loading receive the private health insurance rebate on the total cost of their premium (i.e. the premium plus any LHC loading). Schedule 1 seeks to change this so that people with an LHC loading only receive the rebate to the cost of their premium, not including the LHC loading.(More information about the LHC loading and the effect of this bill is available in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest]. )
  • ''Background of the bill''
  • As well as removing the private health insurance rebate from the Lifetime Health Cover loading component of affected private health insurance premiums, the [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4936 bill] was also introduced to end the Incentive Payments Scheme which allows people to claim the rebate as a direct payment.
  • Currently there are three ways that people can claim the private health insurance rebate: (1) through the Premiums Reduction Scheme, which is an upfront discount on the premium offered by the health insurer; (2) as a tax offset claimed through the Australian Taxation Office; (3) through the Incentive Payment Scheme, which is a direct payment from a Medicare office. This bill would remove the latter option.[2]
  • Currently there are three ways that people can claim the private health insurance rebate: (1) through the Premiums Reduction Scheme, which is an upfront discount on the premium offered by the health insurer; (2) as a tax offset claimed through the Australian Taxation Office; (3) through the Incentive Payment Scheme, which is a direct payment from a Medicare office. This bill would remove the latter option.(Read more about the Incentive Payments Scheme and the bill generally in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest].)
  • ''References''
  • * [1] More information about the LHC loading and the effect of this bill is available in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest].
  • * [2] Read more about the Incentive Payments Scheme and the bill generally in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest].
senate vote 2013-06-27#18

Edited by mackay

on 2014-06-11 12:00:33

Title

Description

  • The majority voted in favour of a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2013-06-27.185.6 motion] that [http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=LEGISLATION;id=legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0001;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0000%22;rec=0 schedule 1] stand as printed, which means that the schedule will remain unchanged.
  • The motion was put in response to a motion introduced by Liberal Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Concetta_Fierravanti-Wells&mpc=Senate&house=senate Concetta Fierravanti-Wells] that the schedule be opposed.
  • The majority voted in favour of a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2013-06-27.185.6 motion] that [http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=LEGISLATION;id=legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0001;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0000%22;rec=0 schedule 1] stand as printed, which means that the schedule will remain unchanged. The motion was put in response to a motion introduced by Liberal Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Concetta_Fierravanti-Wells&mpc=Senate&house=senate Concetta Fierravanti-Wells] that the schedule be opposed.
  • Schedule 1 is the part of the bill that is intended to remove the [http://www.privatehealth.gov.au/healthinsurance/incentivessurcharges/insurancerebate.htm private health insurance rebate] from the [http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/health-privatehealth-lhc-providers-general.htm Lifetime Health Cover] ('LHC') loading component of affected private health insurance premiums.
  • The LHC is a financial penalty on those who delay taking out private health insurance in the form of a two per cent loading on their premium for each year after their 31st birthday they delay purchasing cover. Currently, people with an LHC loading receive the private health insurance rebate on the total cost of their premium (i.e. the premium plus any LHC loading). Schedule 1 seeks to change this so that people with an LHC loading only receive the rebate to the cost of their premium, not including the LHC loading.[1]
  • ''Background of the bill''
  • As well as removing the private health insurance rebate from the Lifetime Health Cover loading component of affected private health insurance premiums, the [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4936 bill] was also introduced to end the Incentive Payments Scheme which allows people to claim the rebate as a direct payment.
  • Currently there are three ways that people can claim the private health insurance rebate: (1) through the Premiums Reduction Scheme, which is an upfront discount on the premium offered by the health insurer; (2) as a tax offset claimed through the Australian Taxation Office; (3) through the Incentive Payment Scheme, which is a direct payment from a Medicare office. This bill would remove the latter option.[2]
  • ''References''
  • * [1] More information about the LHC loading and the effect of this bill is available in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest].
  • * [2] Read more about the Incentive Payments Scheme and the bill generally in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest].
  • * [2] Read more about the Incentive Payments Scheme and the bill generally in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest].
senate vote 2013-06-27#18

Edited by mackay

on 2014-06-11 12:00:07

Title

  • Bills — Private Health Insurance Amendment (Lifetime Health Cover Loading and Other Measures) Bill 2012, Private Health Insurance Legislation Amendment (Base Premium) Bill 2013; Second Reading
  • Private Health Insurance Amendment (Lifetime Health Cover Loading and Other Measures) Bill 2012 - In Committee - Keep schedule 1 unchanged

Description

  • <p class="speaker">Concetta Fierravanti-Wells</p>
  • <p>I rise to speak on the Private Health Insurance Amendment (Lifetime Health Cover Loading and Other Measures) Bill 2012 and the Private Health Insurance Legislation Amendment (Base Premium) Bill 2013. It is interesting that both Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard, as well as other Labor members, over many years have repeatedly ruled out any changes to the private health insurance rebates. Through means testing changes and announcements since, Labor has repeatedly broken its promise on private health insurance. It is important that I remind honourable senators of some of those comments that have been made. I take you back to Julia Gillard, then shadow minister for health. In a letter to the editor of the <i>Hobart Mercury </i>on 2 September 2004 she said:</p>
  • <p class="italic">I grow tired of saying this&#8212;Labor is committed to the 30 per cent private health insurance rebate.</p>
  • <p>Again, in a letter to the editor of the <i>Courier-Mail </i>on 23 September 2004, Julia Gillard reiterated and countered assertions that Labor would erode or abolish the 30 per cent government rebate, saying:</p>
  • <p class="italic">Labor is committed to the maintenance of this rebate and I have given an iron-clad guarantee on that on a number of occasions.</p>
  • <p>Then, again, on 15 October 2005, to the <i>Weekend Australian</i>, there was another reiteration. She said:</p>
  • <p class="italic">The truth is that I never had a secret plan to scrap the private health insurance rebate &#8230;</p>
  • <p>Well, history shows what an untruthful woman Julia Gillard will go down in history as. And then of course there is Nicola Roxon&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Carol Brown</p>
  • <p>Mr President, a point of order: the honourable senator&#8212;well, I am not sure I could call her an honourable senator&#8212;needs to actually refer to the proper title of the members in the other chamber.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">John Hogg</p>
  • <p>All right. If people are not being referred to by their proper title they need to be referred to by their proper title.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Concetta Fierravanti-Wells</p>
  • <p>Thank you, Senator Brown, for such a coherent expression of a point of order!</p>
  • <p class="speaker">John Hogg</p>
  • <p>Order!</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Carol Brown</p>
  • <p>You are the rudest woman I have ever met!</p>
  • <p class="speaker">John Hogg</p>
  • <p>Order!</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Concetta Fierravanti-Wells</p>
  • <p>Mr President, if Senator Brown cannot contain herself at this hour of the evening, perhaps you ought to excuse her from her duties.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">John Hogg</p>
  • <p>Order! Cease the interjections. When there is silence we will proceed.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Ian Macdonald</p>
  • <p>There seems to be someone standing beside you.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">John Hogg</p>
  • <p>Order! There is. That is very observant of you, Senator Macdonald.</p>
  • <p class="italic">Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting&#8212;</p>
  • <p>Nothing, Senator Macdonald.</p>
  • <p>A government senator interjecting &#8212;</p>
  • <p>When there is silence, we will proceed.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Concetta Fierravanti-Wells</p>
  • <p>Of course, it goes on. Ms Roxon in a media release on 26 September 2007 said:</p>
  • <p class="italic">On many occasions for many months, Federal Labor has made it crystal clear that we are committed to retaining all of the existing Private Health Insurance rebates, including the 30 per cent general rebate and the 35 and 40 per cent rebates for older Australians.</p>
  • <p>Mr Rudd, in a letter to the AHIA on 20 November 2007, said:</p>
  • <p class="italic">Both my Shadow Minister for Health, Nicola Roxon, and I have made clear on many occasions this year that Federal Labor is committed to retaining the existing private health insurance rebates, including the 30 per cent general rebate and the 35 and 40 per cent rebates for older Australians.</p>
  • <p>Kevin Rudd at a press conference&#8212;</p>
  • <p>An honourable senator interjecting &#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">John Hogg</p>
  • <p>Order! You do need&#8212;</p>
  • <p>An honourable senator interjecting&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Concetta Fierravanti-Wells</p>
  • <p>Mr Rudd.</p>
  • <p>An honourable senator interjecting&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">John Hogg</p>
  • <p>Yes, you did. Thank you.</p>
  • <p class='motion-notice motion-notice-truncated'>Long debate text truncated.</p>
  • The majority voted in favour of a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2013-06-27.185.6 motion] that [http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=LEGISLATION;id=legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0001;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fbills%2Fr4936_first-reps%2F0000%22;rec=0 schedule 1] stand as printed, which means that the schedule will remain unchanged.
  • The motion was put in response to a motion introduced by Liberal Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Concetta_Fierravanti-Wells&mpc=Senate&house=senate Concetta Fierravanti-Wells] that the schedule be opposed.
  • Schedule 1 is the part of the bill that is intended to remove the [http://www.privatehealth.gov.au/healthinsurance/incentivessurcharges/insurancerebate.htm private health insurance rebate] from the [http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/health-privatehealth-lhc-providers-general.htm Lifetime Health Cover] ('LHC') loading component of affected private health insurance premiums.
  • The LHC is a financial penalty on those who delay taking out private health insurance in the form of a two per cent loading on their premium for each year after their 31st birthday they delay purchasing cover. Currently, people with an LHC loading receive the private health insurance rebate on the total cost of their premium (i.e. the premium plus any LHC loading). Schedule 1 seeks to change this so that people with an LHC loading only receive the rebate to the cost of their premium, not including the LHC loading.[1]
  • ''Background of the bill''
  • As well as removing the private health insurance rebate from the Lifetime Health Cover loading component of affected private health insurance premiums, the [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4936 bill] was also introduced to end the Incentive Payments Scheme which allows people to claim the rebate as a direct payment.
  • Currently there are three ways that people can claim the private health insurance rebate: (1) through the Premiums Reduction Scheme, which is an upfront discount on the premium offered by the health insurer; (2) as a tax offset claimed through the Australian Taxation Office; (3) through the Incentive Payment Scheme, which is a direct payment from a Medicare office. This bill would remove the latter option.[2]
  • ''References''
  • * [1] More information about the LHC loading and the effect of this bill is available in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest].
  • * [2] Read more about the Incentive Payments Scheme and the bill generally in its [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd1213a/13bd066 bills digest].