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representatives vote 2024-11-28#9

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on 2024-12-07 15:38:18

Title

  • Bills — Treasury Laws Amendment (Fairer for Families and Farmers and Other Measures) Bill 2024; Second Reading
  • Treasury Laws Amendment (Fairer for Families and Farmers and Other Measures) Bill 2024 - Second Reading - Put the question

Description

  • <p class="speaker">Milton Dick</p>
  • <p>The Manager of Opposition Business is seeking the call on a point of order.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Paul Fletcher</p>
  • <p>I want to move a motion.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Milton Dick</p>
  • <p>Is it relevant to this item of business?</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Paul Fletcher</p>
  • <p>It is relevant.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Milton Dick</p>
  • <p>I will hear what the Manager of Opposition Business has to say.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Paul Fletcher</p>
  • <p>I want to move a motion that so much of standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent me moving the following motion immediately: that the Treasury Laws Amendment (Fairer for Families and Farmers and Other Measures) Bill be made an order of the day for the next sitting. The reason that this is urgent is that the government has flouted proper procedure. So we are suggesting an appropriate and proper procedure.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Milton Dick</p>
  • <p>Alright. I've heard&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Paul Fletcher</p>
  • <p>We're doing that in the spirit of friendship across the parliament but also offering some guidance&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Milton Dick</p>
  • <p>The manager&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Paul Fletcher</p>
  • <p>on how things ought to be run properly, instead of this chaotic, end-of-year&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Milton Dick</p>
  • <p>The manager has made his point. Just pause for a moment. I had called the item on; the Clerk had read the order. We do need to make sure that, in between items&#8212;the Leader of the House on a point of order?</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Tony Burke</p>
  • <p>Mr Speaker, a suspension is an abuse if it simply revisits a decision that the House has just made. The most recent resolution of the House was that we would bring on item 14. We had already decided, in the last few minutes, to not do what the Manager of Opposition Business is proposing.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Milton Dick</p>
  • <p>Further to the point of order?</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Paul Fletcher</p>
  • <p>Just on that point, Mr Speaker, very specifically: this motion is materially different from the previous one because it doesn't propose a method of not dealing with this; it very constructively proposes the right way to deal with it, which is that it should be made an order of the day for the next sitting. That's the perfectly appropriate and normal and natural process, and that is what we are suggesting, in a spirit of cooperation and with the same constructive approach that we have always brought to these matters&#8212;which, sadly, has not always been reciprocated.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Milton Dick</p>
  • <p>Alright. I'll deal with&#8212;</p>
  • <p>Honourable members interjecting&#8212;</p>
  • <p>Everyone can resume their seats if they wish to interject; otherwise, we'll just keep everyone quiet for the moment while we deal with this matter. The House has made a determination to bring the item on; I've called the Clerk; he has listed that now. The difficulty I have is: if people want to move suspensions or arrangements, they need to do it between items&#8212;that's the issue. We have dealt with this kind of situation before, where variations on a theme have occurred, over and over again, and the House would get no work done if we were just continually to keep revisiting the same topic over and over again.</p>
  • <p>I've called the Clerk. We're going to bring this item on. If we want to go back and visit that issue, it will have to be done between items, and in a slightly different set of words that I'll work with the manager on to deal with that.</p>
  • <p>Order. The member for Jagajaga. It's not a laughing matter. Order. The item has been called on. We can revisit this, after this item has been dealt with, to get through. If people want to do suspensions, right across the chamber, we'll do it in between items, and we can work to make sure that everyone gets what they need to achieve. So the question now is that the bill be read a second time. I'll put the question. Those of that opinion say aye&#8212;</p>
  • <p>Honourable members interjecting&#8212;</p>
  • <p>Against, no&#8212;</p>
  • <p>Honourable members interjecting&#8212;</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Paul Fletcher</p>
  • <p>Can you restate the question?</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Milton Dick</p>
  • <p>Yes, that's okay. We'll restate the question. I'll explain it to the House again, so everyone knows. We're not dealing with your suspension again. We can revisit that, if the House needs to. The Clerk has called the item on. I'm stating the question. The question is that the bill be read a second time. So, if someone wishes to speak, they need to rise to their feet and give their speech to the House. And I give the call&#8212;</p>
  • <p>Honourable members interjecting&#8212;</p>
  • <p>Order! I give the call to the shadow Treasurer.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Angus Taylor</p>
  • <p>Labor has had 2&#189; years to make things fairer for farmers and families&#8212;2&#189; years, and they have comprehensively failed. I see the Treasurer leaving the chamber, because he has comprehensively failed to make things fairer for farmers and families.</p>
  • <p class="speaker">Milton Dick</p>
  • <p>The Minister for Resources will leave the chamber under 94(a).</p>
  • <p class="italic"> <i>The member for Brand then left the chamber.</i></p>
  • <p>We are not having that sort of behaviour and that sort of interjection from people outside of their places. This may be the last day, but everyone is going to be treated with respect and we're all going to follow the standing orders. It's the least we can do. Now the shadow Treasurer is going to be heard in silence on this item, and anyone who interjects now&#8212;firm action will be taken. The shadow Treasurer has the call.</p>
  • <p class='motion-notice motion-notice-truncated'>Long debate text truncated.</p>
  • The majority voted in favour of a motion:
  • > *That the question be now put.*
  • In other words, they voted to stop discussing the question and instead [vote on it](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/divisions/representatives/2024-11-28/10) straight away.