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representatives vote 2014-12-03#1
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Motions - Prime Minister; Attempted Censure - Against university fee deregulation- Motions - Prime Minister; Attempted Censure - Stop Mr Shorten from speaking further
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The majority didn't want to let Opposition Leader [Bill Shorten](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/maribyrnong/bill_shorten) introduce a [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org.au/debate/?id=2014-12-03.5.3) condemning the Government's plan to deregulate university fees. This means that Mr Shorten can't introduce the motion.- The majority wanted to stop Opposition Leader [Bill Shorten](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/maribyrnong/bill_shorten) from speaking any more (in parliamentary jargon, they voted that Mr Shorten "be no longer heard"). This [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org.au/debate/?id=2014-12-03.6.1) is known as a "[closure of Member](http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/House_of_Representatives/Powers_practice_and_procedure/00_-_Infosheets/Infosheet_14_-_Making_decisions_-_debate_and_division)".
### Deregulating university feesThe Government has proposed to remove any restrictions on the amount that universities can charge students for tuition in [Commonwealth Supported Places](http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassist/helppayingmyfees/csps/pages/commonwealth-supported-places). It is not known how much fees will rise if this proposal is successfully passed through Parliament.### Text of the motion> *That so much of the [standing and sessional orders](http://www.peo.gov.au/learning/fact-sheets/standing-orders.html) be suspended as would prevent the [Member for Maribyrnong](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/maribyrnong/bill_shorten) from moving the following motion forthwith—That the House:*> *(1) condemns the Prime Minister for his plans to:*>> *(a) force Australian students to pay $100,000 for university degrees;*>> *(b) saddle Australian students with a debt sentence;*>> *(c) force young Australians to choose between owning a home and getting a degree;*>> *(d) force Australians to choose between starting a family and getting a degree; and*>> *(e) stop older Australians from developing new skills in a changing economy;*> *(2) condemns the Prime Minister for:*>> *(a) [saying one thing on higher education before the election](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-07/continuation-of-university-funding-arrangements-promise-check/5865792) and doing the opposite after;*>> *(b) his failure to listen to the Australian people who have comprehensively rejected the Prime Minister’s plans for $100,000 university degrees; and*>> *(c) his failure to listen to the Senate which [voted against the Prime Minister’s $100,000 degree proposal](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/divisions/senate/2014-12-02/5) only last night; and*> *(3) calls on the Prime Minister to immediately bring the Higher Education and Research Reform Bill on for debate, if the Government is determined to introduce the bill, so that this Parliament can again comprehensively reject the Prime Minister’s plans for $100,000 degrees.*- This means Mr Shorten will no longer be able to speak about [his motion against the proposed deregulation of university fees](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/divisions/representatives/2014-12-03/5).
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representatives vote 2014-12-03#1
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2015-01-23 12:18:38
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Motions — Prime Minister; Attempted Censure- Motions - Prime Minister; Attempted Censure - Against university fee deregulation
Description
- The majority didn't want to let Opposition Leader [Bill Shorten](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/maribyrnong/bill_shorten) introduce a [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org.au/debate/?id=2014-12-03.5.3) condemning the Government's plan to deregulate university fees. This means that Mr Shorten can't introduce the motion.
- ### Deregulating university fees
- The Government has proposed to remove any restrictions on the amount that universities can charge students for tuition in [Commonwealth Supported Places](http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassist/helppayingmyfees/csps/pages/commonwealth-supported-places). It is not known how much fees will rise if this proposal is successfully passed through Parliament.
- ### Text of the motion
- > *That so much of the [standing and sessional orders](http://www.peo.gov.au/learning/fact-sheets/standing-orders.html) be suspended as would prevent the [Member for Maribyrnong](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/maribyrnong/bill_shorten) from moving the following motion forthwith—That the House:*
- > *(1) condemns the Prime Minister for his plans to:*
- >> *(a) force Australian students to pay $100,000 for university degrees;*
- >> *(b) saddle Australian students with a debt sentence;*
- >> *(c) force young Australians to choose between owning a home and getting a degree;*
- >> *(d) force Australians to choose between starting a family and getting a degree; and*
- >> *(e) stop older Australians from developing new skills in a changing economy;*
- > *(2) condemns the Prime Minister for:*
- >> *(a) [saying one thing on higher education before the election](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-07/continuation-of-university-funding-arrangements-promise-check/5865792) and doing the opposite after;*
- >> *(b) his failure to listen to the Australian people who have comprehensively rejected the Prime Minister’s plans for $100,000 university degrees; and*
>> *(c) his failure to listen to the Senate which voted against the Prime Minister’s $100,000 degree proposal only last night; and*- >> *(c) his failure to listen to the Senate which [voted against the Prime Minister’s $100,000 degree proposal](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/divisions/senate/2014-12-02/5) only last night; and*
> *(3) calls on the Prime Minister to immediately bring the Higher Education and Research Reform Bill on for debate, if the Government is determined to introduce the bill, so that this Parliament can again comprehensively reject the Prime Minister’s plans for $100,000 degrees.*- > *(3) calls on the Prime Minister to immediately bring the Higher Education and Research Reform Bill on for debate, if the Government is determined to introduce the bill, so that this Parliament can again comprehensively reject the Prime Minister’s plans for $100,000 degrees.*
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representatives vote 2014-12-03#1
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<p class="speaker">Bill Shorten</p><p>I seek leave to move a motion against the Prime Minister.</p><p>Leave not granted.</p>- The majority didn't want to let Opposition Leader [Bill Shorten](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/maribyrnong/bill_shorten) introduce a [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org.au/debate/?id=2014-12-03.5.3) condemning the Government's plan to deregulate university fees. This means that Mr Shorten can't introduce the motion.
- ### Deregulating university fees
- The Government has proposed to remove any restrictions on the amount that universities can charge students for tuition in [Commonwealth Supported Places](http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassist/helppayingmyfees/csps/pages/commonwealth-supported-places). It is not known how much fees will rise if this proposal is successfully passed through Parliament.
- ### Text of the motion
- > *That so much of the [standing and sessional orders](http://www.peo.gov.au/learning/fact-sheets/standing-orders.html) be suspended as would prevent the [Member for Maribyrnong](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/maribyrnong/bill_shorten) from moving the following motion forthwith—That the House:*
- > *(1) condemns the Prime Minister for his plans to:*
- >> *(a) force Australian students to pay $100,000 for university degrees;*
- >> *(b) saddle Australian students with a debt sentence;*
- >> *(c) force young Australians to choose between owning a home and getting a degree;*
- >> *(d) force Australians to choose between starting a family and getting a degree; and*
- >> *(e) stop older Australians from developing new skills in a changing economy;*
- > *(2) condemns the Prime Minister for:*
- >> *(a) [saying one thing on higher education before the election](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-07/continuation-of-university-funding-arrangements-promise-check/5865792) and doing the opposite after;*
- >> *(b) his failure to listen to the Australian people who have comprehensively rejected the Prime Minister’s plans for $100,000 university degrees; and*
- >> *(c) his failure to listen to the Senate which voted against the Prime Minister’s $100,000 degree proposal only last night; and*
- > *(3) calls on the Prime Minister to immediately bring the Higher Education and Research Reform Bill on for debate, if the Government is determined to introduce the bill, so that this Parliament can again comprehensively reject the Prime Minister’s plans for $100,000 degrees.*
<p>So much for enthusiasm to debate parliamentary issues. I move:</p><p class="italic">That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the Member for Maribyrnong from moving the following motion forthwith—That the House:</p><p class="italic">(1) condemns the Prime Minister for his plans to:</p><p class="italic">(a) force Australian students to pay $100,000 for university degrees;</p><p class="italic">(b) saddle Australian students with a debt sentence;</p><p class="italic">(c) force young Australians to choose between owning a home and getting a degree;</p><p class="italic">(d) force Australians to choose between starting a family and getting a degree; and</p><p class="italic">(e) stop older Australians from developing new skills in a changing economy;</p><p class="italic">(2) condemns the Prime Minister for:</p><p class="italic">(a) saying one thing on higher education before the election and doing the opposite after;</p><p class="italic">(b) his failure to listen to the Australian people who have comprehensively rejected the Prime Minister’s plans for $100,000 university degrees; and</p><p class="italic">(c) his failure to listen to the Senate which voted against the Prime Minister’s $100,000 degree proposal only last night; and</p><p class="italic">(3) calls on the Prime Minister to immediately bring the Higher Education and Research Reform Bill on for debate, if the Government is determined to introduce the bill, so that this Parliament can again comprehensively reject the Prime Minister’s plans for $100,000 degrees.</p><p>Labor will not support higher fees, bigger debt, decreased access and greater inequality. We want the Liberal Party to stick by its promise that they will—</p> <p class="speaker">Bronwyn Bishop</p><p>The member will resume his seat. I call the parliamentary secretary.</p> <p class="speaker">Michael McCormack</p><p>I move:</p><p class="italic">That the Leader of the Opposition be no longer heard.</p> <p class="speaker">Bronwyn Bishop</p><p>The question is that the member be no longer heard.</p>
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